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Lingerie, Love and the Bible

Warning!! This post is PG-13. Meant to stir up holy love and not lust!

“How beautiful are your sandaled feet, O daughter of the prince! The curves of your thighs are like jewels, the handiwork of a master.

Your navel is a rounded goblet; it never lacks blended wine.

Your waist is a mound of wheat encircled by the lilies.

Your breasts are like two fawns, twins of a gazelle. Your neck is like a tower made of ivory; your eyes are like the pools of Heshbon by the gate of Bath-rabbim; your nose is like the tower of Lebanon, facing toward Damascus. Your head crowns you like Mount Carmel, the hair of your head like purple threads; the king is captured in your tresses. How fair and pleasant you are, O love, with your delights!” Solomon’s Song of Songs 7.

Probably the second spiciest section of Holy Scripture. Profitable for teaching us about love. More specifically a holy Eros love.

Context. They have been married for some time now. They have been apart. The people of Israel have been missing their queen, the most beautiful woman, Naamah. She shows up and the people adore her. She goes home and does her hair in the most beautiful manner thus far and puts on 10th century BCE lingerie. Her husband, king Solomon shows up and he adores her from foot to head. Half-way through him he mentions the beauty of her waistline.

Your waist is a mound of wheat encircled by the lilies.” Song 7:2

In this post I will answer these three questions.

1 Is this literal or metaphorical?

2 What did this look like?

3 How did she put this on? or in what manner?

4 Why is this in the Bible?

5 How do I apply this in my life?

“Your navel is a rounded goblet
    that never lacks blended wine.
Your waist is a mound of wheat
    encircled by lilies.” Solomon’s song of songs 7:2

1 Is this literal or metaphorical?

In hermeneutics, Bible interpretation, we take it literal unless literal makes no sense.

He says, “Your waist is a mound of wheat…” Clearly this is not literal, and he is mentioning the roundness of her waist. Then he adds, “…encircled by the lilies.” This can easily be taken literally and fits the context. So, the first half of the sentence is metaphorical with a similarity between a mound of wheat and her waist for her waist is not literally a mound of wheat. Then the second half of the compliment is literal. There are real lilies by her waist.

2 What did this look like?

It is very hard to know for 100 % certainty. Therefore, we will think of some possibilities and in my opinion choose the one I think, and you can choose one as well but either way the point is that she loved her husband, missed him and with love, zeal and fervor wanted to make him as happy as possible when he saw her after being away for a while. So, don’t miss the point!!

I will give my first opinion. I believe it looked something like a Hawaiian lei. A Hawaaian lei is either stringed like a funnel or hung from the waist in rows. I think she had them strung like a funnel round about her waist. And according to the text her breasts and navel were showing.

I won’t show her breasts exposed. I’m really trying to keep this PG-13 and I pray the guys looking at this will first think of a loving doe and a graceful dear for they are part of God’s creation that is beautiful reflecting God’s Beauty. Beautiful and lovely. Pray, “May the Lord bless me with a wife that would be happy to do this in the future, Lord willing. ” “Thank you, Lord, for making women beautiful and may lust not be roused in me but rather a beholding of a reflection of your beauty and Glory wherein is the one thing I desire to behold. Don’t look to long! Desire the beauty of your wife not anywhere else.

“Your navel is a rounded goblet
    that never lacks blended wine.
Your waist is a mound of wheat
    encircled by lilies.” Solomon’s song of songs 7:2.

You know, I believe that more men and women would benefit from a clear picture and have it all spelled out clearly rather than be left in the fog.

Strung around the waist like a funnel. This is around the neck but imagine this around the waist. The lilies would be in a line like a funnel round about the waistline or strung facing out. Oh, so beautiful!! The text seems to infer that she is nude except for the lilies she is wearing. How many women do this with fervor?

“Your navel is a rounded goblet
    that never lacks blended wine.
Your waist is a mound of wheat
    encircled by lilies.” Solomon’s song of songs 7:2.

Why would a man ever leave a woman who expressed her love like this?

Know would some of you mature holy mothers let me know. would you show this to your coming of age daughter and say something like “God would want you to express your love to your future husband in ways like this. This is reserved for marriage. For now stay pure and chaste and when the time is right, then you will be able to enjoy some of the best things about marriage, but you have to stay pure and not even touch yourself.” The idea is to encourage her to stay pure. I believe is she knew that sex before marriage will hinder the greatest joys of marriage that she would be motivated to stay pure. I’m no father so let me know.

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Beautiful and should rouse a holy love in a holy man and not lust. The marriage bed is not a place to satisfy the lusts of the flesh but a place to make the one you love feel loved. How can your partner help you "drink your fill of love." Song 5:1 unless both of you do things to express your love the best way possible.

Again, this would not be around her neck but around her waist.

"Your navel is a rounded goblet
    that never lacks blended wine.
Your waist is a mound of wheat
    encircled by lilies." Solomon's song of songs 7:2.

This is holy Eros love she is excited to and is rousing in her husband for after seeing this he says,

"Your stature is like a palm tree;

your breasts are clusters of fruit.

I said, “I will climb the palm tree;

I will take hold of its fruit.

May your breasts be like clusters of the vine,

the fragrance of your breath like apples,

and your mouth like the finest wine." Song 7:7-8.

This next one is a very close second. She could have some sort of modified lingerie. Modified by adding them to her panties around the top by her waistline.

Coming in third is a more like a garter that has real lilies on it that is around her waist.

Coming in 4th in my opinion is that she is clothed and wearing lilies somehow around the waist. And you can do this at any age 😉

This next one is a little too much but if this was one or two less rows and higher then I think it would be more beautiful and delightful.

Other possibilities but doubtful.

Another way would be strung in rows around her waist.

This next one is possible but it's hard to imagine him complimenting her breasts if she was clothed.

3 How did she put this on? or in what manner?

1 She put this on intending to make the bond of the relationship stronger.

2 She put this on with zeal, ardency or fervor.

3 Her love was sparking/lightning.

4 She put lilies on remembering he liked them.

1 She put lilies on her waist for him intending to make the bond of their marriage stronger. "For love is strong as death, it's zeal as intense as the fire of hell... it's sparks" Song 8:6-7

She had a fiery sweet flame that made her think, "What can I do to strengthen the bond between my husband and I"? For love is strong to unite or strengthen the bond. The feeling affected her in a way that made her do something that would strengthen the bond, therefore she put on what she thought would really please her husband.

2 She put lilies on her waist with and intense zeal, ardency and fervor for love's zeal is intense. She joyfully got ready for him and was excited. More than likely her heart was beating faster in anticipation of his response for she loved him. When love sparks it comes with zeal and fervor. Love is the feeling and zeal is the heat that comes with it.

3 Her love was sparking. She was on fire when she put the lilies on. The love Song records not all of their life, but only times when their love was sparking so that we could get a right idea of love. The definition or description of it's superlative characteristics in Song 8:6-7 and examples of those characteristics in their courtship, engagement and marriage. In this text we see what the love in her heart compelled her to do after being away for a time. Her love sparked her to put on lingerie that made him desire her all the more. (What do we put on for Christ Jesus? Holiness!!) How much more so should we look as lovely as possible for Jesus who died for us and is our Heavenly Husband?

Sometimes she does some really spicy things when her hearts on fire for her beloved!

4 She put lilies on remembering he liked them. She knew her husband and what he liked. He liked to "browses among the lilies." Song 2:16.

He loved lilies and so she put them on for him. For his good and happiness for love desires the good and happiness of the object of its affection!! She paid specific attention to his likes!!

4 Why is this in the Bible and how do I apply this information?

16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17 so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work." 2 Tim. 3:16-17.

It is in the Bible to "teach" us about holy love and not lust. To "rebuke" those who know what love is and aren't doing it. To "correct" those who have a wrong idea of it. For those who know and are doing it to help them keep doing it to the point where they are "trained".

From these texts, "What did you learn about love?" For this is profitable to teach.

From these texts, have you known what love is and haven't been acting out your feelings, then shame on you. Confess your lack of love to God. Confess your sin to God. Believe Jesus died for your sin. And repent. Love. Show love to your wife. Show love to you husband. Please your spouse. Love is not selfish. Ask God for the holy zeal that comes with love. Ask God to "spark" up your marriage. Beg God to spark up the marriage, not because you deserve it but because Jesus Christ has earned it for you. Sparks are gracious sparks. Undeserved favor apart from the person/Person and dying work of Jesus!

From these texts what have you learned and what may need correcting?

How have you been loving your spouse. Keep doing it so that you get trained in righteousness and love.

5 How do I apply this in my life?

1 Men 2 Women

1 Men. I'm talking you men out there. This woman had a man that was glorious yet humble. If you lined up 10,000 husbands, he was the best lover of them all. Song 5:10FF. He was wiser than the wise. Everything he said and did was precious and valuable to her more than gold. His lips dropped honey and he was handsome and charming. Her best and closest friend and beloved.

They had been apart for some time and now she is back and ready to please her man in some of the most intimate ways thus far in the love Song.

Men, it's not that you earn her love it's that you freely keep being the best friend and lover which will help keep her on fire! Your part is to do the good. Make her feel loved. She will feel it in her heart and if it is true love then the feeling inside her will reciprocate back to God and you. For "love is made complete/perfected when we love one another." 1 John 4:12.

Help her to experience the love of God. God loving her. God using you to help her feel loved. God loving her through your thinking of her physical and spiritual good and happiness before yours.

It should be fairly easy for you to show her love. Just make sure she has nothing to complain about. Don't do the things that upset her, cause her to fear or cause her to keep a distance from you. What can I think, feel, say and do that would strengthen the bond of our relationship?

2 Women

I see nothing in the context showing us that the man initiated the lovemaking. Here, the fire of love in her heart moved her to do your hair, keep her sandals on to answer the door and put lilies around her waist and be there when her husband arrived. She initiated it!!

Now this is an example of what she did. We can look at what she did and ask is this beautiful, right, and worthy of praise? Or would you rebuke her? Would it please God for her to rouse her husband's Eros love by doing her hair, being naked and only wearing lilies on her waist when her husband comes home? Clearly, she is intentionally thinking of what would make her lovely and sensually desirable. How can you do the same.

What is the first thing you should do?

Resolve to do it for love's sake!!




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Saved in 2000 at age 27. Nearly immediately I fell in love with the Song and grew very fast the first two years memorizing large portions of scripture purifying my mind the started chewing on meat to soon and struggled for 12 years and Christ has me on track like always but I just took the long way around and now I love leading others closer to Christ by seeing His love reflected in Solomons love for an enemy slave girl.

I have experienced God's love to me in the Song in ways that words can't express. There are many portion of the Word where she experiences extra ordinary outpouring of the Holy Spirit of God. If you have a burning desire for a close intimate relationship with God by experiencing His Love to you over and over again at greater and greater heights, depths, lengths and breaths then The Song of Songs is where you need to be.

I can help you with this process of Growing in the experience of God's love. As of 7-23-16 I have experienced everything prior to chapter 8. The Song of Song is progressive in experience. Meaning that if you are mature then you can experience the joys and extraordinary outpourings of God's Love shed abroad in your heart.

If you are not so mature then the delights in the first chapter of the Song will satisfy your thirst for experiencing the Love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Many Christian are living in sin because they do not know how to experience God's love and get hooked on Loving Him. It feels good to be loved and to love Him. His burden is not heavy and His yoke is light, Jesus said in Matt. 10:28

I believe God wants to use me to help beautify His Bride through the Song of Solomon.

If you see the book literally you will not understand nor grasp the Love God has for you. If you see the book and the verses in it relating to Christ's love to you then I would love to show you how to experience this Love to the fullest. I will pray for you daily and guide you every step of the way.

16 I pray that out of his glorious riches he may strengthen you with power through his Spirit in your inner being, 17 so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith. And I pray that you, being rooted and established in love, 18 may have power, together with all the Lord’s holy people, to grasp how wide and long and high and deep is the love of Christ, 19 and to know this love that surpasses knowledge—that you may be filled to the measure of all the fullness of God.

20 Now to him who is able to do immeasurably more than all we ask or imagine, according to his power that is at work within us, 21 to him be glory in the church and in Christ Jesus throughout all generations, for ever and ever! Amen.

I grew up going to church but was a hypocrite. I lived my life how I chose but went to church on Sunday because my family went.

Mom and Dad divorced when I was about 5.

About this time I was sexually abused by "Bob" a made up name. This incident changed my life for the worst. I had no clue how to deal with it.

As I got older I grew in my hatred for Bob. I didn't blame anyone of my family because I was to young to know any better. Some of what happened during the abuse was in a bathroom. So overtime I would use the bathroom and look at my private parts that night would replay in my mind. My hatred for Bob would continue to grow each time.

Now I know this only happened to me one night. I can't image the pain other's go through who have had this happen to them over and over. Even as I write this now I cry with many tears for those hurting. God love you even though you may not know it or feel it. Go to Him in your time of need.

I was a really bad teenager. I only cared about myself and not even my family. I always came first in my mind. Even at the expense of hurting others. I was growing in my hatred for God by now.

I was going to church and was learned that God was in control. I thought well, if God was in control then He must have let me be sexually abused. I didn't understand this, How could a good and loving God allow this. I hated Him for it. My hatred for Bob grew as well. I was still using the bathroom and memories kept coming back. My heart grew even harder for Bob and God. As far as I was concerned God would have nothing to do with my life so I lived even worse. I thought I would be in jail or dead and I really didn't care, I thought it could be much worse than reliving your painful past over and over again. Little did I know that God's plan later would be to use these events to give me a burning passion for the closest most intimate love relationship with Himself through Christ mainly through the love poem in the Song of Songs in the Bible.

I remember hating Bob so much that the only thing that would relieve my pain was actually thinking he would suffer forever for what he did. I grew so much in my hatred for him that I had to continue to think that he would get even worse than what I imaged before. After some time I would only be relieved of hatred for him unless I thought he would burn in a hotter and hotter hell for all the suffering he put me through.

I never told my mom or family what happened, although I think some of them knew something had happened.

I grew up quite rebellious and even went to jail at the age of 20. I was living the fast life pursuing all my sinful desires and wanting more. It never seemed to be enough. I was quite happy in my sin but I just wanted more of it.

I lived life thinking I would die at a young age, riding motorcycle and living on the edge put me in the hospital many times and I should have been dead.

California at age 26.

I moved to California for a job opportunity at the age of 27. While trying to figure out what radio stations to program in my car, I ran across a RC Sproul talking about "people who have the faith that saves and people who only say that have faith" only the people who have the faith that saves will go to heaven. I thought "I don't think I have the faith that saves because my life was so bad." I searched the scriptures to try to get this faith. I found a church and thought people there could help me get this faith that saves. All along God kept showing me how sinful I was and that I deserved punishment from Him for living my life hating Him.

One weekend I read Matthew, Mark, Luke and John desperately trying to find out how to get this faith that saves. By now I knew that if you had the faith that saves that Jesus would be saving you from a life of sin. I still liked my sin and Jesus sure wasn't saving me from a life of sin, so I rightly concluded that I didn't have the faith that saves.

By the time I got to John, I saw "believe" everywhere. John 3:16 and other verses and wow the whole book was written so that you may believe. John 20:31 "these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name." So at night I would pray "I believe Jesus died for me, I believe, I believe. This was just an intellectual belief. I knew that in history and the Bible that Jesus died for everyone, so I believed it. But this belief did not change my life.

I would go on night after night saying the same prayer only to wake up the next day wanting to fulfill my sinful desires. The prayer wasn't working so I started to word it different each time hoping some prayer would work. After about 2 weeks of this I was fed up with it all, nothing was happening. I still was living in my sin and wanted more of it. A Christian hates their sin and does something about it, and certainly they don't continue to make plans to sin. The prayers weren't working so I gave up. I thought to myself "God, I tried with all my might, I searched the Scriptures, went to church, read the Bible and prayed all to no avail. If Im going to be saved your going to have to do it because I tried."

So I quit praying but still the Bible kept calling me so I read more. 3 Days later I was laying in a tanning bed and God convicted me really hard that I had offended Him by the life I was living. I was so scared of God, where could I run. You can't hide from God. It seemed like forever that I was under these terrors of being punished by a Holy Angry God. This lasted about 10 minutes then this is how I understood it. God let me understand that all that anger that He had for me for all my sin should come my way but He had poured that anger out on Jesus 2,000 years ago. I immediately started weeping an couldn't stop for about 20 minutes. All the sins that I could think of I confessed for that 20 minutes one after another after another, I was so sorrowful and grieved it physically hurt inside.

After I stopped crying I thought that was the weirdest thing that ever happened. I walked out of the tanning salon and stood outside and everything seemed so beautiful, the tree's, the birds, even the air seemed pleasant. Now I was really wondering what was going on.

I pondered all of this as I drove to work that day. I brought my Bible to work and was thinking what am I doing, I want to take my Bible to work so I can read it. As soon as I got to work I started reading my Bible. I couldn't believe what I was reading!! It all was so wonderful. It felt so good to just read my Bible. My client showed up and as I was training them the only thing I could think about was getting back to my Bible. I read all night and slept about 2 hours and was reading again.

I had sinful things in my apartment and I rounded everything evil up and threw it in the garbage. It was weird I was thinking but it felt good so I left it all in the garbage. I called my girlfriend to break it up and she thought I had another girl, I said no, I just think this is wrong we shouldn't be sleeping together. She didn't understand so I told her I was a Christian now and she still thought I had another girlfriend. She said "Im glad your a Christian, so am I" I thought to myself, "I have a strong conviction that sleeping together is wrong and she thought it was okay" I wondered how she could think that. Anyway we broke up.

I kept reading my bible and repenting, there was so much to repent of and I had lived a very sinful life. I was a thief for some part of my life and all the people I stole from kept coming to mind. I owed so much money. I was instantly in debt about $80,000. As I could I paid them back. As of 7-18-2016 I still owe about $25,000 but it sure is a joy to be paying them back.

The first week of being saved a car just about ran me over, they hit me but I wasn't hurt at all. The guy in the car felt so bad. I just looked at him and said "God bless you and have a great day, I am okay" smiled at him and moved on. Now I was really wondering what was going on because I normally would have cussed him out left and right and instead of cussing I blessed him. That was so weird. But again it felt good. I learned to do good by what my conscience told me was good and that it felt good. I got hooked on this feeling good by doing good and did it more often.

About two weeks after being saved I thought of Bob. I immediately prayed for him, something like "Lord help him.." then I stopped praying and said out loud "What am I doing?" I'm praying for a man that I hated my whole life, but it feels good and right, so I did it again. I stopped again midway in the prayer and started pacing around. I was trying to make sense of what was going on and couldn't figure it out. But again it made me happy to pray for him so I did. Bob would often come to mind when I went to the bathroom and each time I would pray for Him. The more I did this the less weird it got. And the greater my love grew for him.

I started memorizing large portions of scripture and this was wonderful because it felt like the words were cleaning my mind and as Proverbs 2:10 "For wisdom will enter your heart, and knowledge will be pleasant to your soul." I wanted more and more of this pleasantness. So I memorized even more and the joy got more and more.

Then this life changing advice came:

A friend from church told me to find a book of the Bible and really understand it. Read through the Bible and pick one and read it over and over and study it and really get it. So I started in Genesis and read through. When I got to Proverbs I really liked it so I thought that would be the book. I started by memorizing all of Proverbs chapter 3. After that I thought maybe there is a better book than Proverbs. So I read on. Then I came to Song of Solomon. I read it with quite some confusion. It wasn't as good as the other books, I didn't know why. So I bought a commentary on it. George Burrowes commentary on the Song of Solomon.

In the commentary I found that George and other saw the book as illustrating God's love to the Church. And not only illustrating it but displaying the Love of Christ better than any other book. This caught my attention big time, because I was having a burning desire for a closer relationship with God and desperately learning about His Love so that I could Love God. You see I had hated Him for so long that God used that old hard heart to spur me on in loving Him. I so much did not want to hate God anymore that I was on fire to learn to Love Him as much and as fast as possible. So here was a book that would help me do that. So I landed on the Song of Solomon. I committed to learning as much of this book as possible.

I memorized the first chapter and would repeat it often throughout the day. I didn't know much of what I was repeating but it sure made me happier and on fire for God. I grew so fast repeating the first chapter over and over again all day, like a dozen times a day at least. It felt so good and I never found any other book that caused me to weep so much. I would often weep everyday just reading it. I was to immature to know what was going on. Even though it hurt to weep so much, I felt like my heart was being cleansed from the filth that was in it by repeating it over and over again so I did. As I read the commentary I understood more and more. What God was doing in me through the Song was greater and faster than any other portion of Scripture so I tended to stay there often. I was so excited about God that I thought it funny that other's in church weren't the same way. Some where happy but it seemed most of them didn't seem to care much about God. They would talk about work, football the weather. The only thing I wanted to talk about was Jesus and God and how can I grow closer to Him.

About this time there was a mission trip to Ireland.

I started to have convictions that I should try to find Bob and witness to him. I kept praying for him but how could he be saved if he hadn't heard the Gospel that has power unto salvation. So I asked family if they had any information. Like me before, my family hated him and thought he deserved hell. After some time I got his name but no location or phone number. Either they didn't know where he was or didn't want to tell me. I prayed some more and then started to get stronger convictions to do something about finding Bob.

So I went on the internet and typed in "his name and child molestation sex offender court" thinking that some court record would have some info leading to where I may find him" I even talked to a private eye and he couldn't help. So I googled some key words and spent hours each day looking through each page. I believed it was God's will for me to witness to Bob. I wanted him to be saved. Really bad. So much so that I thought God would save Bob if I were to witness to him. So I didn't stop searching for him. I kept my computer on each day and went page by page. It took two years to go through about 15,000 pages but I found someone who matched his name in a prison for molesting his grandchildren. I wrote the prison and he wrote back. All kinds of emotions went through my body when I saw his letter from the jail. I didn't open it right away but two hours later God gave me enough courage to face my fears again and I opened the letter. He admitted to being the one who molested me. We wrote back and forth I told him I was angry before but now I was saved and that I loved him and believed God wanted me to talk to him. He read my letters over and over again. I shared the gospel in each one.

I got mad at Bob 2x. Once he said that he love me. I got really angry with him. He didn't love me. That night it was hard to love Bob, I had to call a friend to pray for me to repent, after he prayed I felt greater love for Bob. Then I wrote him back saying "I'm sorry but you can't say that you loved me. You did not love me you lusted after me." He admitted he didn't love as he should have and admitted that it was lust and sinful. Finally some conviction. Yet I only thought he was saying that because I was being nice to him. All his family had left him and he said I was the only "friend" he had.

Wether or not it was true Bob said that he had cancer in his arm and that the help the prison gives was not enough and if he had money he could see a different doctor and get help. I sent him some money and since I was in jail before I knew what it was like to be in there without money, so I sent him money.

About 4-5 months in the economy went down, it was 2008. Work was hard. I still sent him money and I had to work harder. This was a really good lesson for me because I had to "work hard for the benefit of someone who did not deserve it." This was one of the greatest blessing ever because I realized with great certainty that Jesus was in me. This is what Jesus did. Jesus worked his whole life for me and I didn't deserve it!! Christ was in me! This was one of the best feelings ever and it put me in worship for months.

Then a mission trip to Croatia.

Each time I had to leave my business and amazing as it is I was completely okay each time. I am a self employed personal trainer and it is normally absurd to just leave and start over, but each time I had enough work within 2 weeks of coming back. This is a flat out miracle. I trusted God to provide and he did. How many people can start up a business in 2 weeks. Only with the help of God. God was teaching me early on in my walk that as long as I did what He wanted me to do then I had nothing to worry about.

About 3 years saved now.

I Taught the 4 year old's at church Sunday morning for 10 years.

Left my business 2x for mission trips and God miraculously provided when I came back.

I taught 5 x a week plus held a job.

Sunday morning to the kids.
Sunday night with the 5th graders
Friday afternoons at Good News Clubs. Sponsored by Child Evangelism Fellowship.
Friday Nights with the Kids teaching through Pilgrims Progress, I did this 2x
Teaching Monday afternoons at a nursing home. I taught through the Song of Songs once then John, then Romans then back to the Song again! I love the Song of Songs.
I grew up hating God for what happened to me, and now I love Him because He first loved me. My passion is for children to grow up loving God and not hating Him.

My other passion which has become ever greater is to help others see the Love of Christ to His Church in the Song of Songs!!

I would love to help you, just let me know and I will lead you and pray for you.

God demonstrates His love to us in sending His one and only Son to suffer in our place, taking our sins upon Himself so that whoever believes they get to heaven because of what He did for us will not perish but have everlasting life.

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